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Astrid Liden (to All - Entire Audience): 9:49 AM: Welcome, everyone!  Please introduce yourself in the chat and share what you have done to start planning for fall.
Brad Hasskamp (to All - Entire Audience): 9:51 AM: Bryan, I have turned off my computer speaker. I will try my sound again
Bryan Tollefson (to All - Entire Audience): 9:54 AM: Bryan Tollefson - We are looking at getting back to limited in-person classes and maybe continuing on-line instruction during the class. (big maybe)
Sue  Vogelsang (to All - Entire Audience): 9:55 AM: sue Vogelsang-Faribault County ABE
Sue  Vogelsang (to All - Entire Audience): 9:57 AM: Hoping to offer in person classes in the fall but will continue with Distance Learning options. We have 15 computers and hot spots to check out to students that don’t have access to devices in their homes.
Brad Hasskamp (to All - Entire Audience): 9:58 AM: Thanks for sharing your current fall planning, Bryan and Sue! I hope others can share what they are currently planning for fall in the chat!
Nadine Holthaus (to All - Entire Audience): 9:59 AM: Hi this is Nadine Holthaus from Rochester. Our district has told us to come up with 3 plans for the fall: in-person, hybrid and on-line only
Laura Malott (to All - Entire Audience): 9:59 AM: Laura  Classes will be DL for summer Possibly f2f in middle of August by registration. Not sure about when we will start GED testing.
Tad Haven (to All - Entire Audience): 9:59 AM: Tad Hagen- Roseville...echo 3 plans for hte fall
Bryan Tollefson (to All - Entire Audience): 10:00 AM: Sue where are you getting hotspots and service through?
Cathy Grady (to All - Entire Audience): 10:00 AM: This is Cathy Grady at Hubbs - we have started doing some in-person TABE testing and GED testing and are planning for 3 scenarios for fall. Hopeful we can have at least some classes in person on site at Hubbs.
Jeanne Zehnder (to All - Entire Audience): 10:00 AM: Jeanne Zehnder-SSABE-we are working on 3 plans.
Brenda Richman (to All - Entire Audience): 10:00 AM: Tammy in Moorhead - we are bringing new students onsite for orientation & assessments.  We are also working on the 3 plans for fall.
Laura Malott (to All - Entire Audience): 10:00 AM: Yes,Cass Lake will also have 3 plans for the fall. LLTC will be having fall classes mainly online, but labs and a few scheduled on campus due to the nature of the class.
Chris  Dahlke (to All - Entire Audience): 10:01 AM: Winona is looking at the 3 potential options, too.
Sue  Vogelsang (to All - Entire Audience): 10:01 AM: I ordered them through my school district. Not sure what vendor they used but they were on back order for three months,
Julie Fietek (to All - Entire Audience): 10:01 AM: Julie Fietek, Alexandria ABE  Blowing in from the tornado that passed about 300 yards from my house last night!  All is well, but had neighbors who lost their homes.    AAABE is getting additional DL platforms up for the fall!
Bryan Tollefson (to All - Entire Audience): 10:01 AM: thanks sue
Jodi Versaw (to All - Entire Audience): 10:01 AM: Julie - so sorry to hear bout tornado! That's scary.
Cathy Grady (to All - Entire Audience): 10:01 AM: Glad you are OK, Julie! That sounds so scary.
Valeria Svenby (to All - Entire Audience): 10:01 AM: This is Val from Faribault ABE. We are currently also planning 3 different scenarios for fall, probably mostly DL
Deborah Hall (to All - Entire Audience): 10:02 AM: AAP of Robbinsdale is looking at the 3 scenarios and who we could best serve with each of them.
Sarah Hoggard (to All - Entire Audience): 10:02 AM: Sarah from ThinkSelf here. Right now we're just planning for DL with potentially one-to-one scheduled meetings
Elizabeth  Harner (to All - Entire Audience): 10:02 AM: This is Liz from SWMetro, we are planning on 3 scenarios as well for the fall.
Laura Malott (to All - Entire Audience): 10:03 AM: Julie, thankful you are safe   Sorry about your neighbors.  The storm had three rounds near Bemidji.  Ping pong hail, downpours and strong winds.
Brad Hasskamp (to All - Entire Audience): 10:07 AM: Julie, I am so glad you are okay! Scary that a tornado came so close. Sorry your neigbors lost their homes! So sad!
Deb McDermott-Johnson (to All - Entire Audience): 10:12 AM: Owatonna will be opening with face to face as a district and planning is about 30% complete.  Still working on screening at point of building entry and transportation issues.
Randall Bergman (to All - Entire Audience): 10:12 AM: Hi Everyone! Randy from Department of Corrections. We never shutdown at Lino Lakes. We are planning for greater use of peer-tutoring, but are wondering how we can receive the training for ABE tutors?  I have been taking some guidance from higher education in our scheduling for social distancing and reducing intermingling. 
Astrid Liden (to All - Entire Audience): 10:12 AM: Please raise your hand to share and we can unmute you.  
Tracie Kreighbaum (to All - Entire Audience): 10:12 AM: Really well so far. Your walk-thought on 6/25 was excellent and with district support it is coming together on our end. Still working with PCs for People to get computers to our students. This is going to be our biggest hurdle. 
Tracie Kreighbaum (to All - Entire Audience): 10:12 AM: Lakeville/Northfield
Karen Wolters (to All - Entire Audience): 10:13 AM: Mankato ABE.  No plans yet.  Just met yesterday for the first brainstorming session with our district.  
Kellie McGowan (to All - Entire Audience): 10:13 AM: Metro South
Karen Hatlestad (to All - Entire Audience): 10:13 AM: This is Karen from VSS in St. Paul.  We are planning to have half of the students Monday/Tuesday and half Thursday/Friday.  We will teach digital lit to students and make sure they have computers.  We have been handing out computers this whole time.  WiFi is still an issue.  Many of our students are elders and all are Beginning learners.
Tracie Kreighbaum (to All - Entire Audience): 10:13 AM: ok
Scott Helland (to All - Entire Audience): 10:13 AM: online is as is

hybrid started in person yesterday 
part in person aand part online

not sure what the fall holds but currently 
Harmony  plans hybrid or in person based on covid numbers
Kirsten Fuglseth (to All - Entire Audience): 10:14 AM: Northwest Service Coop ABE has classrooms in about 15 communities.  Currently we have plans to do both online and in person.  We are trying to move back to in person as much as possible.
Tom Cytron-Hysom (to All - Entire Audience): 10:14 AM: Randall, You can contact Rob at Literacy Minnesota re. tutor training needs.
Amy Fish (to All - Entire Audience): 10:15 AM: Lakes Area Adult Ed has a plan for distance only and a hybrid plan with appointments for limited in person. We do not have a plan for returning to in person instruction yet.
Nadine Holthaus (to All - Entire Audience): 10:16 AM: It is going well, the guidelines are helpful.  Getting our student the technology they need will be difficult. For hybrid we are planning to have students both face to face and on-line at the same time. I have done a chart of how many students can be face to face and also follow the social distancing guidelines.
Deb McDermott-Johnson (to All - Entire Audience): 10:16 AM: SE ABE-Owatonna has also determined that our face to face and hybrid will be the same programming. Our class sizes are small enough to meet capacity restrictions at 50%. We are looking to add an online option for students and working with our IT Department to be part of a "group buy" on Chromebooks we can provide to our students to enhance access to technology.
Jason Sellars (to All - Entire Audience): 10:16 AM: Hybrid A and B day.   Our classrooms can host 11 students socially distanced 6 feet a part.  Half of our students in each class one day then the other half the second day.  
Jill Rivard (to All - Entire Audience): 10:17 AM: This is Jill with Hiawatha Valley Adult Ed in Red Wing.  I have submitted our covid plan to the college for class, our room is large with many computers and will continue to do an open lab once our plan is ok'd.  I have been meeting with students one to one as needed.  We will follow the guidelines of our school districts for the fall.
Nicki Olalde (to All - Entire Audience): 10:17 AM: Lyndale Neighborhood Association will be moving all programming into the Blaisdell YMCA. We will have a combination of in-class programming, online and some 1-on-1 phone/video tutoring. At the moment, we are doing 100% online and phone tutoring.
Kirsten Collins (to All - Entire Audience): 10:17 AM: For those looking for affordable technology, we are working with a non-profit called human IT.  · Refurbished HP Chromebook 14 G1: $98.98 each
New In Box HP Chromebook 11 G8: $249.98 each
Every device purchased through that store receives a free 1-year warranty and 1-year of unlimited tech support from human-I-T (English/Spanish). 
Tom Cytron-Hysom (to All - Entire Audience): 10:18 AM: I frequently hear lack of computers and BBD is a major issue in many places.
Jason Sellars (to All - Entire Audience): 10:18 AM: For us testing is the biggest challenge.
Tad Haven (to All - Entire Audience): 10:19 AM: Roseville- we are seeing that our academic students and ABE students have shown the greatest capacity for distance learning. If we return for hybrid, we will be having our beginning and intermediate students reporting a majority of the time. Our other core processes (registration and testing) we will slowly implement as part of the in person piece.
Chris  Dahlke (to All - Entire Audience): 10:20 AM: Winona is still figuring things out.  All of our programming is out-of-district, so we have each of our 3 "landlords" that we have to work with in order to get started with anything hybrid/in-person.
Julie Fietek (to All - Entire Audience): 10:21 AM: Alex ABE is currently doing online, in-person (appointment-only) or a combination of the two.  We are building our DL capabilities and recently purchased 20 Chromebooks for student use.
Todd Wagner (to All - Entire Audience): 10:22 AM: Are others planning, like Roseville, to focus in-person programming, to the extent in-person is possible, on serving studentes who have been hardest to serve at a distance?
Marylynn Dvorak (to All - Entire Audience): 10:23 AM: Metro South has tested 30+ students remotely.  Pre and posting.  CASAS is working on a Reading Level Indicator for informal placement and listening test on smartphones.
Chelsea Ritland  (to All - Entire Audience): 10:23 AM: At Adult Options (Hopkins, St. Louis Park, and Minnetonka), classroom capacity will not be an issue for SLP and Mtka, but at Hopkins it is only 8 students with 1 teacher and 1 volunteer. Our goal is to have Beginning level students all in-person, intermediate levels and Advanced hybrid (A/B days in-person/online). GED will be a mix of online only and in-person. Our evening program is 2 days a week so we are also aiming to have all in-person evening classes. Each teacher would have a conjoined two classes for up to 16 students at a time with volunteers. We are undergoing Canvas training this summer to use Canvas for the online learning piece. 
Julie  Dincau (to All - Entire Audience): 10:24 AM: Scott excellent to check with your district on what to do regarding if there is a student who gets COVID. What are the processes to contact the the other individuals in the class? Are there data privacy issues to consider?
Julie Fietek (to All - Entire Audience): 10:24 AM: If anyone has a good 'Student Computer Use' agreement they would like to share, I would very much appreciate it.  :)
Cathy Grady (to All - Entire Audience): 10:24 AM: Todd- Yes, we are definitely discussing prioritizing those students, the ones who have been hardest to serve at a distance.
Karen Hatlestad (to All - Entire Audience): 10:25 AM: Karen at VSS.  We taped arrows on the floor to guide learners.  We provide masks.  We take temps and do the 5 screening questions.  We have one person or family at each table.
John Ashby (to All - Entire Audience): 10:25 AM: (Sorry to be late to the party) Neighborhood House is pretty comfortable staying mostly online for a while. We're having once-a-week drop in times for students to get help signing up for DL and our online classes, but those have not been well attended. Our Youth Program is running summer camps online for youth, and we're sending home packets to them and including ReadWorks paper packets for families with ABE students at home, and that's been pretty popular.
Cathy Grady (to All - Entire Audience): 10:25 AM: I'd love to know if anyone is planning for a computer loaner program and if you would be willing to share how you are doing that.
Randall Bergman (to All - Entire Audience): 10:25 AM: Is Rob the only person able to train ABE tutors in the State of Minnesota? Does this training have to be in-person? I ask this, because when we look at expanding the use of peer-tutoring to a 1:1 ratio (which can be done in some contexts online), there's a real need for significant more training days and options?  
Chelsea Ritland  (to All - Entire Audience): 10:26 AM: We have submitted request in the CARES Act for PPE supplies and more mobile hotspots. We will require masks and provide them if students don't have them. I am looking into purchasing the clear masks for teachers so students can see their mouths talking
Tracie Kreighbaum (to All - Entire Audience): 10:26 AM: Classroom cleaning specifics/checklist would be helpful is anyone has that developed. We have a technology cleaning checklist. 
Cathy Rucci (to All - Entire Audience): 10:26 AM: Is there a scenario where we might be required to hold in-person classes?
Kirsten Fuglseth (to All - Entire Audience): 10:27 AM: We have rented classroom space in a DEED office (sub-leased) and they have no plans in place to open, so that leaves us without the ability to offer in person classes.  Quite frustrating to be limited by our lease holder.  Any other with this issue and are leases being revised as a result?
John Ashby (to All - Entire Audience): 10:27 AM: Cathy" We got a donation of tablets that we're planning to give out. The current plan is for it to be a lending library with pretty strict policies about getting the tablets back timely and in good working order, and I'm a little pessimistic about that process
Jeanne Zehnder (to All - Entire Audience): 10:27 AM: At SSABE our district custodial staff will clean the same as they will in the other district buildings.   
Nadine Holthaus (to All - Entire Audience): 10:27 AM: Our district is developing a cleaning plan
Tad Haven (to All - Entire Audience): 10:28 AM: My biggest question is this:
Cathy Rucci (to All - Entire Audience): 10:28 AM: Yes, thank you very much.
Todd Wagner (to All - Entire Audience): 10:28 AM: Randall--I think Tom was suggesting Rob as the Literacy Minnesota point of contact regarding volunteer training and Rob could help explore possibilities.
Scott Helland (to All - Entire Audience): 10:28 AM: requiring masks
donated ones for those who might forget

face shields for teachers

2 days for teachers to plan space

lots of antibacterial soap
wipes
cleaning for laptops
bring your own or take a pencil and keep it

limit handouts

no homework turned in

time in between classes for cleaning

Cathy Grady (to All - Entire Audience): 10:28 AM: Right. Thanks, John. I am going to be pessimistic, too, if we get something like this going . :-)
Kathleen Moriarty (to All - Entire Audience): 10:28 AM: At the Metro North ABE-Columbia Heights site we are starting a trial run of some limited on site placement testing and 1:1 tutoring in addition to our online classes this summer. We are doing all on site work by appointment only. We are collecting all of the appropriate PPE and screening tools. We plan to start the week of July 20th. We feel this will help inform our hybrid work in the fall.  We have also been checking out chromebooks to students. We would like to have the screening tool in audio format in different languages to make sure that our lower level learners fully understand (we are targeting our lower level ESL learners for on site 1:1 tutoring)
Tad Haven (to All - Entire Audience): 10:29 AM: How are programs planning/reacting to staff making demands/assertions that they will not return face to face
Cathy Grady (to All - Entire Audience): 10:29 AM: Tad - I'm also wondering about that possible issue.
Laura Malott (to All - Entire Audience): 10:29 AM: CL ABE is hesitant to lend out the few laptops we have unless the student has had consistent attendance, however, that isn't possible at this time. Any program that has a positive lending plan, please share.
Brad Hasskamp (to All - Entire Audience): 10:29 AM: Good question, Tad. We have Staffing as a core issue to address later in the session!

Scott Helland (to All - Entire Audience): 10:29 AM: yes computer loaner

sign up 
sign a form
hope they bring it back

every 6 weeks must check back in with it
Cathy Rucci (to All - Entire Audience): 10:30 AM: We're doing a laptop 'lending' program. We've been quite happy with the ability of our beginning level learners accessing GoToMeeting class! Staff has been directed that we provide some lending requirements to the learners but that we are not the computer police. If we had newer, nicer computers available - that might be different.
Cathy Grady (to All - Entire Audience): 10:30 AM: Makes a lot of sense, Scott!
Kirsten Collins (to All - Entire Audience): 10:30 AM: not off the top of my head, but I can find it pretty easily.
Kirsten Collins (to All - Entire Audience): 10:30 AM: oops, sorry all, that was for Burgen :)
Julie Fietek (to All - Entire Audience): 10:31 AM: As I continue to watch the news, the fact that COVID is hitting our non-English speaking communities the hardest continues to reinforce the strong need to ABE/ESL services at this time!!
Scott Helland (to All - Entire Audience): 10:31 AM: staffing using hr

accommodate if medical for self or home

then reevaluate monthly so putting that in because I want to have a renewed yes instead of a force back to work
Tracie Kreighbaum (to All - Entire Audience): 10:32 AM: Someone suggested in a prior MNABE chat that in-person meetings shoudl focus on computer literacy and using DL programs so that we can be more effective with online instruction and more prepared if/when we have to switch to all online. We may take this approach to some extent. 
Tracie Kreighbaum (to All - Entire Audience): 10:33 AM: Agreed Randy!
Laura Malott (to All - Entire Audience): 10:33 AM: Tracie, that was my program's initial plan, but students' needs and community issues quickly changed that direction.
Tracie Kreighbaum (to All - Entire Audience): 10:33 AM: Our Skype volunteer program is successful for that reason.
Randall Bergman (to All - Entire Audience): 10:33 AM: That's wonderful thank you!
Julie  Dincau (to All - Entire Audience): 10:33 AM: Great point! In addition, it helps with isolation issues for the tutor and the student.
Tracie Kreighbaum (to All - Entire Audience): 10:33 AM: Laura-thanks for that feedback. 
Astrid Liden (to All - Entire Audience): 10:34 AM: Here's info about the remote tutoring training: https://atlasabe.org/event/remote-tutoring-101-061720/
Tracie Kreighbaum (to All - Entire Audience): 10:34 AM: Laura- might want to hear more about your experience
Laura Malott (to All - Entire Audience): 10:35 AM: All of you have such great suggestions.  
Cathy Rucci (to All - Entire Audience): 10:37 AM: We haven't had many new students - even after multiple recruitment efforts of former students. How is that for other programs?
Todd Wagner (to All - Entire Audience): 10:37 AM: Tracie-Yes, using in person programming, to the extent in-person is possible, to enhance the effectiveness of on-line learning and/or to serve students who have been hardest to serve on-line, is a great approach--and would be expecially helpful if, at some point in the future, there is a need to return to all distance learning.
Randall Bergman (to All - Entire Audience): 10:37 AM: I would like some funding for masks. It would be great to provide free masks to tutors and students for in-person classes that are unique to our program. Also, more education on the importance and values of wearing masks and social distancing would be great to hand-out too. 
Burgen Young (to All - Entire Audience): 10:38 AM: Literacy Minnesota can share our survey that we ask students before we lend a Chromebook, and also the lending agreement.
Chelsea Ritland  (to All - Entire Audience): 10:38 AM: Here's our current Chromebook checkout agreement at Adult Options. We likely will not request a fee if damaged (I think I copied this suggestion from Metro North CHF to state the value of the device). We know we will likely not get some back but that is all part of it. https://docs.google.com/document/d/1xbzN6zIdbNZuC3Aa2nUkZjUFWqc59jU2BXdrzZLxk8U/edit 
Cathy Grady (to All - Entire Audience): 10:41 AM: Thank you, Chelsea!
Julie Fietek (to All - Entire Audience): 10:42 AM: Thanks to all for sharing computer user agreements!
Astrid Liden (to All - Entire Audience): 10:43 AM: Rob Podlasek, Training Director, at Literacy MN: rpodlasek@literacymn.org
Kathleen Moriarty (to All - Entire Audience): 10:43 AM: I have a form for our chromebook lending program, too. It is modified from  the Col Hts school district K12 form. https://drive.google.com/file/d/1ieOGZGKq83dOOeVPnpqF4JIz7Zw6WrRR/view?usp=sharing
Brad Hasskamp (to All - Entire Audience): 10:44 AM: Thank you all for sharing these great resources!
Brad Hasskamp (to All - Entire Audience): 10:44 AM: How are you planning distance education? Any new insights?
Tracie Kreighbaum (to All - Entire Audience): 10:46 AM: Can you please remind us what ways we can get an EFL without CASAS testing?
Tracie Kreighbaum (to All - Entire Audience): 10:47 AM: Initial level
Cathy Grady (to All - Entire Audience): 10:47 AM: One thing we've learned is that shorter sessions are generally better when doing Google Meet classes.
Todd Wagner (to All - Entire Audience): 10:47 AM: Cathy--what time length have you found works best?
Cathy Grady (to All - Entire Audience): 10:47 AM: In part because it's exhausting for the teacher.
Laurie Elsen (to All - Entire Audience): 10:47 AM: We have had a good amount of success with classes via Zoom.  We will expand office hours via Zoom.  Hoping it will continue to be free but expecting they'll start charging.
Cathy Grady (to All - Entire Audience): 10:47 AM: about an hour, Todd
Laurie Elsen (to All - Entire Audience): 10:48 AM: Laurie, RAVE
Cathy Grady (to All - Entire Audience): 10:48 AM: We have been using ReadTheory and Moby Max to get level estimates
Theresa Zingery (to All - Entire Audience): 10:48 AM: Metro North is using Read Theory for placement in place of not being able to provide NRS testing.
Cathy Grady (to All - Entire Audience): 10:48 AM: ReadTheory for reading level and Moby Max for math.
Tracie Kreighbaum (to All - Entire Audience): 10:49 AM: That is super helpful. Thank you!
Todd Wagner (to All - Entire Audience): 10:49 AM: Cathy--that's great as all programs will evenutally have access to both platforms.
Jason Sellars (to All - Entire Audience): 10:49 AM: If we estimate the level at a 1, and then later the score in a level 3, the student receives the level gain?
Laurie Elsen (to All - Entire Audience): 10:49 AM: Our zoom classes have ranged from 45 minutes at the lower level to close to two hours at the higher level. Laurie RAVE
Kathleen Moriarty (to All - Entire Audience): 10:49 AM: Metro North ABE-Col Hts has been doing remote intake using Read Theory. At the Col Hts site we have placed 50 students and I believe we have about 40 in various stages of the process right now.
Jill Rivard (to All - Entire Audience): 10:50 AM: I think training on mobymax and readworks now that they are state supported should be done asap so we can get going on them.
Jeanne Zehnder (to All - Entire Audience): 10:50 AM: SSABE is using ReadTheory and Molby
Burgen Young (to All - Entire Audience): 10:50 AM: Does anyone have a tool for estimating for pre-beginning to intermediate level ELL?
Jason Sellars (to All - Entire Audience): 10:50 AM: Thx Brad
Kirsten Collins (to All - Entire Audience): 10:50 AM: oh yes, I will send to all. 
Todd Wagner (to All - Entire Audience): 10:50 AM: Kathleen--have those placements been proving to be accurate, i.e. you not having to move students between classes after placement?
Kirsten Collins (to All - Entire Audience): 10:50 AM: Rob is in another meeting and can't join us.  However, he did say that the plan is to have some type of option by September. Please reach out to him directly with tutor training requests. rpodlasek@literacymn.org
Kathleen Moriarty (to All - Entire Audience): 10:52 AM: Todd - so far, so good. For anyone who scores below a 1.0 in Read Theory we do have them complete CASAS practice test questions to help us ballpark lower level ESL placement (we have 4 low ESL levels  - we default  lower placement and a teacher can move up the student as needed)
Burgen Young (to All - Entire Audience): 10:53 AM: Interesting idea Kathleen. Thanks.
Brad Hasskamp (to All - Entire Audience): 10:54 AM: How are you planning hybrid programming? 
Nicki Olalde (to All - Entire Audience): 10:55 AM: Kathleen, are you just pulling those questions from the tests themselves and compiling them to make a "low-level" test?
Laura Malott (to All - Entire Audience): 10:56 AM: CLBW would like to have in person for initial intake, TABE online tests, set up distance learning lessons at that time
Tracie Kreighbaum (to All - Entire Audience): 10:59 AM: Thank you Laura- that is how we approach things in Northfield too. Lots of packets. 
Laurie Elsen (to All - Entire Audience): 11:00 AM: Thanks, Tom.  I think that is super important.  Laurie
Laura Malott (to All - Entire Audience): 11:00 AM: Balance for sure.  
Randall Bergman (to All - Entire Audience): 11:00 AM: For corrections, I've been taking advantage of our Foundations Program that involves 12-20 hours of Orientation and Instruction to start, then students work with their teacher(s) to make a distance learning agreement  and personal learning plan together for distance learning with monthly advising 1:1 check-ins. This seems to be working...
Cathy Grady (to All - Entire Audience): 11:01 AM: Here are the district's "guiding principles" for planning:
Laura Malott (to All - Entire Audience): 11:01 AM: That sounds like a beneficial program
Cathy Rucci (to All - Entire Audience): 11:01 AM: If/When we begin in-person, we will definitely start small. And like how we've been dealing with all aspects of the last several months - we'll work in phases.
Tad Haven (to All - Entire Audience): 11:02 AM: I'll re-post my question: Have programs had discussions with their HR regarding staff that are demanding/asserting they will not return. (talking about staff who do not have underlying conditions)
Cathy Grady (to All - Entire Audience): 11:02 AM: Focus on the needs of students and families.

Sorry - this is Cathy G from SPPS -guiding principles for planning:Prioritize community well-being, including the social emotional and physical health needs of students and staff.

Champion equity and make sure students maintain progress toward their learning goals.

Design fiscally responsible and sustainable solutions.

Cathy Grady (to All - Entire Audience): 11:02 AM: I need to slow down. There are 4, starting with the top line there.
Tad Haven (to All - Entire Audience): 11:03 AM: Thank you
Cathy Rucci (to All - Entire Audience): 11:03 AM: Yes, all of these considerations around in-person are based in respecting the comfort level of employees.
Brad Hasskamp (to All - Entire Audience): 11:05 AM: Let's talk about the issue of staffing, starting with Tad's question
Kathleen Moriarty (to All - Entire Audience): 11:06 AM: Nicki -we are using the CASAS practice questions (converted to google forms).  I'll check w/my intake staff on original source and let you know.
Nadine Holthaus (to All - Entire Audience): 11:06 AM: Our HR department will be giving us guidance around this issue
Kathleen Moriarty (to All - Entire Audience): 11:07 AM: Nicki - they are from the official CASAS practice tests. They are on their website.
Nicki Olalde (to All - Entire Audience): 11:07 AM: thank you, Kathleen!
Tracie Kreighbaum (to All - Entire Audience): 11:07 AM: Some thoughts- high risk staff may take on DL support and student support for additional needs including food security/employment, financial assistance, other needs due to COVID disruptions 
Theresa Zingery (to All - Entire Audience): 11:08 AM: There is also the issue of family of High risk folks
Todd Wagner (to All - Entire Audience): 11:08 AM: Nadine--do you have a sense of when Rochester HR will issue guidance?
Theresa Zingery (to All - Entire Audience): 11:08 AM: I mean if the staff has a high risk family member
Theresa Zingery (to All - Entire Audience): 11:09 AM: Here's the link to the CASAS sample test questions page on the CASAS site- https://www.casas.org/product-overviews/curriculum-management-instruction/sample-test-items
Todd Wagner (to All - Entire Audience): 11:10 AM: Has anyone's organization already directly addressed this issue?
Randall Bergman (to All - Entire Audience): 11:10 AM: We continue to learn that ABE distance learning is so personalized for each student. Staff are working very hard to prepare individualized distance learning instruction, which can be done from home--except copying that is necessary in corrections. But it takes significant time to give individualized feedback and targeted assignments across contant areas for every individual student. It is important to communicate in ABE how much time and human effort it takes to teach adult learners from a distance.
Nadine Holthaus (to All - Entire Audience): 11:11 AM: I have to go, thanks everyone
Cathy Grady (to All - Entire Audience): 11:11 AM: I wish we had guidance but nothing yet
Cathy Rucci (to All - Entire Audience): 11:11 AM: Always prioritize safety.
Sue  Vogelsang (to All - Entire Audience): 11:11 AM: no answers yet
Theresa Zingery (to All - Entire Audience): 11:11 AM: We are waiting to hear from our district and they have not decided.
Cathy Grady (to All - Entire Audience): 11:11 AM: I think the teacher's union is meeting weekly.
Tracie Kreighbaum (to All - Entire Audience): 11:11 AM: Just waiting on more information before solid planning for specific teachers 
Todd Wagner (to All - Entire Audience): 11:12 AM: I wonder if districts are waiting for the week of July 27 directive from MDH and MDE before promulgating a plan/requirements/guidance?
Theresa Zingery (to All - Entire Audience): 11:12 AM: I think our district is hoping to decide before July 27 but that would add information for sure.
Laura Malott (to All - Entire Audience): 11:12 AM: Conversations have happenened and are evolving.  Many of the college and school's staff and students fall into this category.  Right now we are taking it month to month.  We an increase in cases recently, we are going slowly
Brad Hasskamp (to All - Entire Audience): 11:12 AM: Good points on waiting for more guidance, Laurie, Tracie and Todd!
Kellie McGowan (to All - Entire Audience): 11:13 AM: Our union suggests staff to get letters from Dr regarding any health issues
Brad Hasskamp (to All - Entire Audience): 11:13 AM: Laura, that is a good reminder that situations are changing quickly in different communities
Jeanne Zehnder (to All - Entire Audience): 11:13 AM: In our district, this is a sticking point in out district wide planning.   
Tad Haven (to All - Entire Audience): 11:14 AM: I understand the safety aspect, but as part of Community Education as a whole, it is difficult to hear staff saying they will not report when we have child care front line workers at risk. I understand the safety aspect, but there are those that do not have that privilege. 
Jeanne Zehnder (to All - Entire Audience): 11:14 AM: I agree Tad. 
Brad Hasskamp (to All - Entire Audience): 11:16 AM: For those of you that share your ABE space, what issues are you facing?
Jill Rivard (to All - Entire Audience): 11:16 AM: I had to send in a covid plan to get back into our classroom in our community college.  
Todd Wagner (to All - Entire Audience): 11:17 AM: Jill--Did the college provide a format and guidance regarding what you plan needed to include?
Randall Bergman (to All - Entire Audience): 11:18 AM: On a side note: we've seen a considerable increase in our students interests in going into cleaning services and/or starting their own a cleaning buisness after they graduate and/or leave our program.
Laura Malott (to All - Entire Audience): 11:19 AM: CLBW has been in constant communication with LLTC.  Jus heard back from the pres. about possibly changing meeting locations for short student meeting by appointment due to class location at the end of the building.  The college will require all to sign in and follow guidelines before entering buildings, clean-up etc.  Collaborating. 
Chris  Dahlke (to All - Entire Audience): 11:19 AM: Thanks, Jill, that is what we have been doing in Winona, too.
Brad Hasskamp (to All - Entire Audience): 11:21 AM: What is your plan if someone tests positive for COVID?
Todd Wagner (to All - Entire Audience): 11:21 AM: Jill and Chris, are the colleges going to let you use their cleaning supplies or do you have to provide your own?
Kathleen Moriarty (to All - Entire Audience): 11:21 AM: I do have concerns about cleaning at our space in a rented building. There is an eve bldg custodian but the bldg is not following the same level of cleaning protocol as schools, etc  There are some shared spaces and shared public restrooms. And an active dental office that shares our floor. We will be doing our own wipe downs of tables/chairs/tech/etc within our space. 
Jill Rivard (to All - Entire Audience): 11:21 AM: Here is the plan I submitted - the college wants us to use their cleaning regimen. https://drive.google.com/file/d/1Ldfdf7C5euv_DDO5sIYF-N6EeyXWiCGx/view?usp=sharing
Tom Cytron-Hysom (to All - Entire Audience): 11:23 AM: It seems to me contact tracing will pretty much do away with confidentiality, as tracers contact people who may have been in contact with the infected person...
Jodi Versaw (to All - Entire Audience): 11:23 AM: Tom - contact tracers will not reveal the name or identity of the person who tested positive (but obviously sometimes folks will be able to figure it out)
Nicki Olalde (to All - Entire Audience): 11:24 AM: We have talked about closing down our site for two weeks, should someone test positive. But what then if it happens several times? Any thoughts about continuing programming if someone tests positive in a small site? 
Tom Cytron-Hysom (to All - Entire Audience): 11:24 AM: Yes, very likely, especially in settings with fewer people - there will be lots of gossip and speculation, most likely
Cathy Rucci (to All - Entire Audience): 11:25 AM: We had someone test positive - we discovered our safety and cleaning protocols we had in place worked and we continued them and one staff member with a minimal amount of exposure to that person had to quarantine.
Deborah Hall (to All - Entire Audience): 11:26 AM: One of our concerns has been that we know we will have people who will be returning from other countries and even just other states.  How can you screen for that?  So far the district has offered no guidance about that, even for staff traveling this summer.
Chelsea Ritland  (to All - Entire Audience): 11:29 AM: Agreed, Karen. In my experience the MDH staff have been fabulous to work with in a TB outbreak. 
Cathy Grady (to All - Entire Audience): 11:29 AM: This is great info - thanks, Karen!
Cathy Grady (to All - Entire Audience): 11:30 AM: Thank you, MDE-ABE team!
Burgen Young (to All - Entire Audience): 11:31 AM: This was helpful. Thanks!
Chelsea Ritland  (to All - Entire Audience): 11:31 AM: Thank you MDE team and ABE colleagues! 
Deborah Hall (to All - Entire Audience): 11:31 AM: Thank you
Jill Rivard (to All - Entire Audience): 11:31 AM: Thanks!
Brenda Richman (to All - Entire Audience): 11:31 AM: Thank you, all! :)
Todd Wagner (to All - Entire Audience): 11:31 AM: Thanks to everyone for joining today's discussion and for all the sharing of information!
Theresa Zingery (to All - Entire Audience): 11:31 AM: Thanks everyone!
Ann Trochlil (to All - Entire Audience): 11:32 AM: Thanks!
Karen Wolters (to All - Entire Audience): 11:32 AM: thank you!
Katy Gonzalez (to All - Entire Audience): 11:32 AM: Thank you!